Posts tagged tommy robinson
Posts tagged tommy robinson
Posting on the now anti-EDL (yeah) facebook page EDL English Defence League Support Group, Tommy Robinson’s PA, and director of English Defence League Limited, Hel Gower, has confirmed that money donated by supporters, and raised by merchandise, which we were long convinced was being siphoned off, has indeed been pocketed by, well, someone.
"As for the tax issue I wouldn’t even go down that route lad. I have enough proof that I was never involved in the Finance side of EDL and that RO’s always have been the ones in charge of it and don’t forget by RO’s that means the Committee including you in the past tense. I had one spreadsheet that I did when Tommy/Kev left EDL and closed the Paypal a/c that had been managed by RO’s and I pointed out the shortfall in money and what did the RO’s say, including yourself, drop it don’t tell anyone!!! I’ve also got the allegations from Bolton where he ‘alleged’ Dave McKenna had stolen money/merchandise and again the Committee said drop it, then there was Big J and the money that he took, shall I go on? all swept under the carpet and never revealed to the supporters of the EDL, why was that? Whilst it would be an inconvenience to me if I was investigated by HMRC I know I have enough proof of who was in charge of monies/merchandise throughout my course of time with the EDL, even now they use an RO’s bank account or did. I’m sure it would be more of an inconvenience to RO’s past and present to also be investigated after all your run by a bankrupt and benefit scroungers and all their accounts would be frozen as well whilst being investigated. Plus the person that now does merchandise and gives 50% to EDL would have to be investigated and have to prove his books are all legit so don’t give that threat out because it would really be more of a hassle to you lot then me and where are the accounts for the 50% held?" Hel Gower.
In a lengthy argument with former EDL organiser, Tony Curtis, the one thing that is clear is that money went missing. As for who the culprit was, Hel blames the RO’s past and present, and Tony thinks it was Growler, Uncle Kev and Tommy:-
We have a few questions and points for Tommy Robinson, that we wish someone in the media would put to him.
"Tommy" stated in his interview with Nicky Campbell for 5Live, and on other occasions, that he headbutted Alan Mckee at their Blackburn demo for being a nazi. In actual fact he did it because McKee called him a grass.
Tommy says he has never had a problem with all Muslims. So how does he explain this?
Tommy said the neo-nazi element of the EDL were invited back by others while he was inside. However, Tommy himself invited them back in this video he made after his release.
”Everyone is welcome back”
“All these little f—— Islamists are going to be out in force thinking they can take the piss, so every lad needs to be there, it’s important. As I said, I welcome everyone back, I take everyone back, there’s no hard feelings with anyone. Let’s crack on, have a united front, and take back our cities street by street.”
The whole video is worth a watch, he pulled it and released an edited version but we had already grabbed the above.
And here’s the Northern Casuals being invited back by EDL on their facebook page.
Why when Tommy went on European jaunts, did he engage with racist groups like Bloc Identitaire?
Tommy recently made appeals for donations to pay his legal fees. Where is that money, and who owns the DEL merchandise account that the money was being paid into?
The EDL claimed to be non violent, non racist etc. Did Tommy ever condemn any of his supporters for their criminal activities?
Does Tommy plan on working closely with Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer, despite their extreme anti Muslim stance?
Tommy has stated:-
"I was away for 18 weeks and when I got back the movement didn’t represent what I stood for."
Here is a list of demos and actions he has attended, on behalf of this movement which doesn’t represent him, since that realisation.
London at least twice.
Two sponsored walks
By Julie Blackadder
Yesterday Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll, leaders of the English Defence League, went for a 24 mile walk round the perimeter of Tower Hamlets. Tommy had announced in a video posted on Thursday, that he was doing this to raise money to cover his costs from losing the judicial review he requested, over the decision to disallow EDL from marching past the East End Mosque in Tower Hamlets last Saturday.
The walk itself was largely uneventful. After a Muslim kryptonite bacon- powered sandwich, Keith and Orville toddled off about midday from Aldgate in STOP FGM teeshirts, followed by some ant-fascists. There was a lot of pantomime Getting A Bit Lost, which conveniently led to them crossing the border into Tower Hamlets, thus breaking Tommy’s bail conditions without him being arrested.
Around 5pm, Tommy tweeted that they had 8 miles to go, but then for reasons best known to themselves, they diverted to distant Woolwich, a place which no-one, any longer, gives a monkey’s if they visit or not, finally arriving back in Aldgate about midnight.
But what kind of walk was it?
Oh, a sponsored walk. Who were they raising money for though?
Right got it, it was another charidee walk. So why was the cash donated being paid into the EDL merchandising Paypal account, and not, say, one of several charities who campaign to end FGM? Why not carry a bucket with you, to collect for FGM on the way? Because, you know, otherwise people might think that Tommy was using the horrific abuse of women to scam his gullible followers into giving more money towards their legal fund. Surely not.
Apparently so. The drama scamarama doesn’t end there though. In Tommy’s video above, he claims that if he fails to pay the defendants costs in his unsuccessful judicial review within 28 days, he will be sent to jail for 28 days. What. A. Crock.
"Enforcement of judgement
When a judgement is obtained, the unsuccessful party may make payment voluntarily. If it does not, various enforcement procedures are available including arranging for assets to be seized and sold or obtaining a charging order over the unsuccessful party’s property. There is also the option of forcing the party into insolvency if the judgement sum is not paid.”
None of that sounds pleasant, but I don’t see any option which involves Tommy being banged up again, and why would it? Judicial reviews are a civil matter: no-one would ever bring one if it meant they were potentially going to prison if they lost. What with Tommy’s assets, as he is constantly bleeding telling us, being frozen, I doubt he has much to fear from the actual penalties either.
So EDL sheeple, what it comes down to, to paraphrase Tommy’s own words, is that Tommy doesn’t care, that the whole world is watching Tommy blatantly stitch you up.
Thanks to @MohammadFa15al.
By Julie Blackadder and Janie Jones
It’s been all quiet on the Tommy Robinson Bandwagon of Panto Bigotry lately, but today fash and anti-fash Twitter and facebook were all agog again, with the news that Tommy and Unkle Kev Carroll had been remanded into custody. Only for one night, mind, so no heartbreaking tales of Nando’s longing in prospect. Phew.
Apparently, Tommy had been obliged to go to the police station about a change to his bail conditions, set after his arrest for obstructing the police during his charridee walk to Woolwich back in June.
However, within 2 hours, Tommy and Kev had, instead of being taken to HMP Wandsworth, appeared at Westminster Court and been bailed until 11th September, with a day off for the Tower Hamlets demo on the 7th. Very kind of them.
This struck us as an interesting course of events, and sure enough when we looked up the law on changes to bail conditions:-
Changes to bail conditions, whether set by the police or the courts, require an application to the magistrates court. So we suspect Tommy and Kev’s claim that they were remanded at the police station, was hewn from purest bullshit: just another spurious episode in the mythology of Tommy the hero, bravely risking jail rather than let down the faithful for Tower Hamlets.
Here are Tommy’s bail conditions as received from the court.
Shortly after posting them on Twitter, Tommy tweeted this:-
Well that’s fascinating, Tommy, because the Crown Prosecution Sevice clearly states that,
” In particular, Rule 19.25(1) places a requirement on the defendant to notify the prosecutor of the address at which he would reside if released on bail with a condition of residence as soon as practicable after the institution of proceedings, and as soon as practicable after any change of address.”
You are such an idiot.
Pathetic attempts at martyrdom aside, presumably these bail conditions were set for a reason, like the fact that the offence occurred at an EDL related event, and the fact that Tommy has previous for thuggish behaviour at EDL demos. So why on earth has an exception been made for Tower Hamlets? Effectively the court is saying that Tommy can’t attend any demos, unless he’s actually got a demo on. Brilliant.
Tommy Robinson and Kev Carroll after todays bail hearing
“Scotland Yard said officers had decided to remand Yaxley-Lennon, 30, from Luton in Bedfordshire, in custody when he was charged to allow magistrates to decide on bail conditions.
A spokesman said: “Decisions around bail conditions are made on a case-by-case basis dependent on the nature of the offence committed and the likelihood of the person charged adhering to those conditions. On this occasion officers made the decision to remand him in custody to appear immediately at Westminster Magistrates’ Court to allow them to make a decision as to the suitability of police proposed bail conditions.”
The conditions were upheld and he was released.
Carroll, 44, also from Luton, answered police bail later in the day and was charged without appearing in court.”
Anyone else see the word ‘overnight’ mentioned? Nope, me neither.
Two days ago Tommy Robinson of the EDL was warned that his walk from Hyde Park to Woolwich could not go through Tower Hamlets or he risked arrest. He deliberately chose a route that would take him past East London Mosque.
Yesterday he tweeted that he would “be in a cell by lunchtime” . https://twitter.com/chilla786/status/351083857832988672/photo/1
Then, he walks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7rE9RenRDM&feature=youtu.be Police continuously try to agree a different route, Tommy chooses to continue walking. There is an “attack” from men, who seemed to have been walking with the men moments before. This leads the police to arrest Tommy. *Update, it would seem that it was anti EDL who fought with Kev. This doesn’t change the basic facts that Kev was the aggressor and that they went there to cause tensions. If idiot antis helped them, then they just handed them an excuse.
All this rather neatly leads to the EDL calling for “direct action” http://twitpic.com/czwucc
Could all this have been an EDL plan to rile up their supporters and get those feet on the streets? Tommy loves to play the martyr, the “political prisoner” It wouldn’t be the first time the EDL have contrived outrage to up the numbers at a demo.