1. The English Defence League’s defence against accusations of being Far Right
The EDL (English Defence League) strenuously denies being a Far Right organisation. Its defence amounts to it allegedly welcoming many minorities into its ranks and that it stands up for the rights of all human beings.
Please note: the English Defence League (EDL) is not now, nor has it ever been a “Far Right” organisation. The EDL welcomes all colours, creeds, religions, sexualities and anyone who believes in the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family. (EDL press release, 21st March 2011)
2. What is the Far Right? Expert definitions of fascism and comparisons from history
The Far Right is in essence any movement that holds extreme conservative views, involves some form of supremacism, with people deemed to be either inferior or superior, and the belief that social equality is a false ideal. The EDL’s interpretation of fascism is based entirely on the Nazi model of the Third Reich, carried on by neo-Nazis to the present day. Laying aside the naked tokenism on display with EDL ‘divisions’ classified by race, religion and sexuality, these ‘divisions’ actually do not subtract from the accusations that the EDL are Far Right. This is because the Far Right can encompass quite a few ideologies including fascism as well as religious fundamentalism. Fascism can also be broken down into different versions, such as Nazism, Italian Fascism and Falangism in Spain. Out of those three only Nazism was actually racial nationalist as opposed to just nationalist like standard fascism.
Like the EDL Italian Fascism did not have an official policy of racism and had Jewish and non-white members. Anti-Semitic sympathies were rare in the population of Italy when compared to Nazi Germany and Mussolini may have only introduced anti-Semitic legislation in 1938 under pressure from Hitler. Italian Fascists were extreme nationalists, just like all fascists, but accepted all races as long as they accepted fascist doctrine. In Mussolini’s Italy an Italian national was defined by his participation in the National Fascist Party, so if you weren’t in the Party you weren’t really Italian. The EDL consider you to have forfeited your English nationality if you oppose them.
Expert opinion holds that fascism is hostile to cultural pluralism and social division (Griffin, R., 1998): it abhors cultural division within society. According to Merkl (2003) fascism propounds a theory of ethnopluralism (more than one race) based on cultural homogeneity (one culture). Clash of civilisations rhetoric is fairly typical in fascist thought, which holds that civilisations cannot mix (Merkl, P., 2003). As related above, Fascist Italy was multi-racial as was Spain under Franco.
“Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. National pride has no need of the delirium of race.”(Mussolini, B., 1933)
Therefore it is no defence for the EDL to claim they aren’t Far Right because they allow Jews into their ranks. As related above, Mussolini had no problem with Jews initially. The same applies to any other racial minority. Fascist regimes were extreme nationalist regimes that believed in a monocultural society in which all citizens were a part of and worked for the benefit of the State.
“Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.” (Mussolini, B., 1927)
Expert opinion on the EDL is that they are Far Right. Commenting on the There is Nothing British about the BNP website Dr. Matthew Goodwin of Nottingham University, an advisor to the British Government on the Far Right, states the following.
“The far right is no longer just the BNP.For the first time in British history mainstream politicians and others are facing a strong far right political party (the BNP) and a growing extra-parliamentary far right grassroots social movement (English Defence League).” (Goodwin, M., 25th January 2010)
3. Sources of evidence for the English Defence League being Far Right
The EDL will quite readily deny any supporter who says racist or fascist things as being genuine and will say that they are an ‘infiltrator’. There are actually many thousands of examples of such people making such statements, which if anything show that the EDL attracts racists and fascists. However for evidence that they cannot deny we shall have to look to official statements, such as their Mission Statement and statements by their leader Stephen Lennon.
4. A comparison between the English Defence League’s values and those of fascism
A series of frequently asked questions (the thread was entitled F A Q) was posted on the English Defence League’s UK Freedom Forum website on 11th June 2010, the answers bear a resemblance to fascist ideology.
In response to the question “What is the EDL?” the response was that EDL are people “who are concerned by the government’s failure to protect our English heritage and cultural values from the influence of abhorrent Islamic cultural values.”
In response to the question “What does the EDL hope to achieve?” the answer was: “The EDL hopes to achieve the integration of all British citizens into a harmonious socially cohesive society with shared common traditional English cultural values.”
The question “How does the EDL hope to achieve it [sic] aims?” makes it clear that the EDL seek a Kulturkampf against the “divisive and abhorrent culture of Islam” in England, which they see as incompatible with and a threat to English values. They say they will achieve their aims “By directly opposing Islamic cultural values, practices and symbols in England”, in other words they want Islamic culture banned in England. In their press release the EDL stated that it “believes in the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family”, so either they are lying or they don’t view Muslims as human. Seeing as they intend to achieve this by “pressuring government”, we can assume that by England they mean the UK.
In response to the question “Does the EDL want British Muslims deported from Britain?” the EDL states:
“No it does not but we would like to encourage them to fulfil their commitment to Islam by making hijrah. Islam commands that Muslims must not live in Britain (a non-Muslims [sic] country). Islam commands that Muslims must not live in the land of the enemy (Britain)”.
It then misinterprets some passages from the Koran to back this up, as well as coming up with an entirely different meaning to hijrah than is what is given in Islam (it refers specifically to the Prophet Mohammed’s escape from Mecca to Medina in 622 AD). Islam does not say that unbelievers are the enemy, or that Muslims shouldn’t live in their lands. It should be noted what Stephen Lennon’s opinions on Islam are.
“Islam is a disease!” (Lennon, S., 11th December 2010)
“Islam is fucked!” (Lennon, S., 11th December 2010)
“Radical Islam and Islam’s days in this nation are numbered!” (Lennon, S., 11th December 2010)
The question “What is the EDL’s policy on immigration?” gets the response that “immigration leads to problems in the longer term” and that immigration should be limited to “immigrants who share our cultural values.”
The EDL’s policy on multiculturalism is that “Multiculturalism is divisive, division is bad. We should all work for a harmonious socially cohesive society with shared common traditional English cultural values.” The EDL obviously view cultural division as a bad thing and that English society although multi-ethnic should be monocultural. Interestingly Stephen Lennon declared that the EDL defends multiculturalism in a speech given at Blackburn on 2nd April 2011, although given that he has said things are true that are demonstrably false, it’s questionable whether he was being sincere.
When asked “Are members of the EDL are racists / is the EDL is a racist organisation?” the answer given states that the “exact opposite is the case.” This flies in the face of the masses of available evidence, however as mentioned previously that is outside the remit of this paper. The important bit is “We encourage and welcome all races to join us. Our Vision and that which we work towards is of a harmonious and socially cohesive society of all races.” That means a multi-ethnic society, which according to the EDL will have a shared culture.
The EDL’s response to “EDL members are fascists is that true?” is obviously “no”, but they then go on to make the bold claim that “Fascism died with Hitler, Mussolini and some old South American dictators” and that anti-fascists such as Unite Against Fascism claim the EDL are fascist, because they need someone to call fascist! It shows the extent of the EDL’s ignorance (or perhaps deceit) if they claim fascism died out long ago. Post-1945 it is usually referred to as neo-fascism and this description includes the British National Party and National Front that have fascist policies. Fiamma Tricolore and Forza Nuova are current Italian neo-fascist parties and there are huge numbers of neo-fascists world wide, so the EDL’s claim that they can’t be fascist as fascism no longer exists is rubbish.
When the question is asked whether the EDL is the same as the BNP, the response is that the BNP had abhorrent racial policies and “the EDL pursues an anti-racist policy including open membership to anyone of any colour or creed. One of the reason [sic] it opposes Islam is because Islam preaches racism.” Firstly the EDL can demonstrably be shown to contain a great many racists. Secondly the EDL states that it isn’t racist because it allows in all races and religions, but in the next sentence says that opposes Islam because it says Islam is racist, so presumably it doesn’t welcome Muslims into the EDL. Islamic racism is defined by the EDL as being opposition to non-Muslims, but opposition to Islam by the EDL isn’t racist, so says the EDL. Not only does this contradict the EDL’s claims that Islam isn’t a race and therefore anti-Muslim abuse isn’t racist, it manages in the first sentence to define itself as non-racist as it doesn’t discriminate against religions, but in the next says it discriminates against Muslims!
The question also asked about BNP members being in the EDL, but despite having said the BNP has “abhorrent racial policies” the response to that was “we don’t know and don’t care”. This may be influenced by the fact that Stephen Lennon was in the BNP from at least 2004 to 2007. They say every EDL member is subject to the same rules regardless of background, which is nonsense because officially they have no membership, so they can’t make anyone who isn’t a member of their organisation subject to the rules of the organisation.
A further question asked “Islam is not a racist ideology anyone of any race can become a Muslim?” but then followed that up with some misquoted passages from the Koran about Muslims not living with non-Muslims, as if that proved Islam was racist. Essentially according to the EDL it’s not racist to attack Islam, but if Islam is critical of non-Muslims that is racism. Furthermore Lennon himself made comments to the effect that Muslims are breeding “our race” to extinction, meaning that either he thinks Muslims are a race or ‘Muslim’ means a non-white person.
“Within thirty or forty years in this country we are a complete minority to Muslims, because of the Muslim demographics. They’re having 8 children, we’re having 1.3. Our culture and our race will disappear in this country.” (Lennon, S., 27th January 2010)
According to 2006 figures, the fertility rate of White British women had increased 1.73 children each (www.ccsr.ac.uk/esds/events/2008-12-02/dubuc.ppt). That of Muslim women from Pakistan and Bangladesh (women from the countries with the highest Muslim birth rates) had fallen to an average of 2.9 and 3.1 respectively and had been falling since 1987 (http://iussp2009.princeton.edu/download.aspx?submissionId=93139), and that a “rapid and continuing decline of TFR for the Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups since 1987 support the idea of fertility convergence across ethnic groups in the UK although some differences remain between groups.” The claim that Muslim women have 8 children each (a birth rate higher than any country on Earth) is based on a YouTube video that gives no source. An obsession with preserving the nation or race through high birth rates and outbreeding rival nations or races; is a well-documented fascist trait. He further confers racial status on Muslims by implying it is somehow racist for people to vote for other people on the grounds of religion.
“Muslims will surely vote for other Muslims. Now that’s racism in itself.” (Lennon, S., 27th January 2010)
What a tangled web indeed!
The Mission Statement contains insights into the EDL’s desire to see cultural assimilation.
“Emulation and promotion of 7th century Islamic ideals is the antithesis of any Western democracy, therefore we challenge the concepts, laws, morality and intolerance of Islam as practiced in its ‘original” form’” (EDL Mission Statement, 23rd January 2011)
This mirrors very closely Stephen Lennon’s oft-repeated statement that he opposes an ideology (he refuses to recognise it as a religion, despite all religions being ideologies) in “its 7th century barbaric form”. That implies that practicing Muslims are themselves barbaric and therefore inferior. Islam is portrayed as a threat to Western culture and values.
“In reality, sharia cannot operate fully as anything other than a complete alternative to our existing legal, political, and social systems. It is a revolution that this country does not want, and one that it must resist. Sharia is a “threat” to our democracy.” (EDL Mission Statement, 23rd January 2011)
In fact sharia laws, which function as a non-legally binding collection of codes for out of court arbitration, are applied in the UK in a manner that does not conflict with UK national laws. Foreign cultures whilst accepted by the EDL are viewed as alien and they are content for them to eventually disappear in England.
“However, this does not give license to policy-makers to deliberately undermine our culture and impose Non-English cultures on the English people in their own land.” (EDL Mission Statement, 23rd January 2011)
“Why is the EDL solely focused on Islam and not other alien cultures? There are other sections of our society which pursue cultural values which are inconsistent with our English cultural values and that has been the case throughout history and history has shown that eventually these groups integrate into society and conform with our cultural norms” (F A Q, UK Freedom Forum, 11th June 2010)
That says that the EDL believe that there are certain, defined, English cultural values that all ethnic groups should obey. Other examples of a fascist-type mentality can be seen in statements such as this.
“In pursuing this self-defeating and destructive policy, the Government has effectively been acting as the propaganda arm of the Muslim Brotherhood […] Islam is not just a religious system, but a political and social ideology that seeks to dominate all Non-Believers and impose a harsh legal system that rejects democratic accountability and human rights” (EDL Mission Statement, 23rd January 2011)
The Muslim Brotherhood currently fills the role that the ‘Learned Elders of Zion’ once played for the Far Right, that of an imaginary rival. Nowadays instead of Judeo-Bolshevism they talk of Islamo-Marxism controlling the world’s governments. The reason for this is twofold.
It is no longer socially acceptable to draw on anti-Semitic propaganda to further political aims.
Anti-Semitism was endemic in Europe in the early part of the 20th century, not just in Germany. Oswald Mosley infamously was a fascist and an anti-Semite in the UK. These days similar views are held about Muslims.
The EDL make ominous rumblings about what will happen if the social divisions, i.e. having more than one culture in the UK, aren’t eliminated.
“Resentment is already beginning to grow, and could create dangerous divisions if nothing is done.” (EDL Mission Statement, 23rd January 2011)
From whom this resentment emanates does not need to be explained, however it clearly illustrates that sharia law, in itself no more legally binding than the rules of a club, causes “dangerous divisions” in the minds of the EDL. This sounds suspiciously like what Stephen Lennon said when interviewed by Jeremy Paxman on the BBC’s Newsnight in the aftermath of Anders Breivik’s acts of terrorism.
“And we are against all extremism and all violence, but you need to listen, because God forbid this ever happens on British soil, because it’s a time coming. You’re probably five or ten years away.” (Lennon, S. 25th July 2011)
He previously said something very similar when interviewed by Australian TV’s Nine Network’s 60 Minutes programme, foreshadowing Anders Breivik’s atrocity.
"I think if things were left the way they were and nothing changes, you’re probably five…five years away from having English lads wanting to blow themselves up. Because people are so angry about what is going on. So angry and so feel under threat and a complete oppression to do with Islam." (Lennon, S., c.20th March 2011)
In other words the EDL are threatening violence, terrorism in fact, as a result of them not being listened to. Lennon may say we have five years minimum, but a terrorist attack could potentially happen before then. This is because:
Regardless of what Lennon says the EDL are inclined to violence and the language of extremism.
With no official membership the EDL leadership cannot positively guarantee that none of its loose collection of supporters are opposed to committing acts of terrorism.
Seeing as the resentment they speak of is directed at Muslims and Lennon’s comment was in relation to a terrorist massacre by Anders Breivik, a Far Right extremist, it can only be taken as meaning that the EDL are suggesting Far Right atrocities if they aren’t listened too and their demands aren’t met. The EDL state that they are very keen to get in touch with people with a similar mentality as theirs around the world.
“The EDL is keen to join with others who share its values, wherever they are in the world, and from whatever cultural background they derive. It believes that the demand for sharia is global and therefore needs to be tackled at a global as well as national level, so that this demand will never be succumbed to. The EDL will therefore have an international outlook to enhance and strengthen its domestic efforts, while uniting many in a common struggle against a rising tide of Islamic intolerance towards western life, its customs, its cultures, its religions, its politics and its rule of law. The time for tolerating intolerance has come to an end, it’s time for the whole world to unite against a truly Global Jihad.” (EDL Mission Statement, 23rd January 2011)
The EDL has managed to join up with various Far Right extremist and terrorist groups and links between it and the Norwegian Far Right terrorist Anders Breivik appear to have been established. It categorises Islam in total as being against Western life, customs, cultures, religions, politics and law, a view shared by Far Right extremist Breivik.
“Far worse than failing to compete with non-Muslim Asians is failing to identify the threat from Islamic nations who want to subdue us and wipe out our entire civilisation. That is a failure we quite simply cannot live with.” (Breivik. A. B., ‘2083: A European Declaration of Independence’, 2011)
This is a fundamental belief that unites the Far Right in Europe, North America and Australasia. It is inconceivable that a non-Far Right movement would declare Islam as an enemy of Western civilization and openly state that Muslims are trying to take over. When the EDL said it would join with people who share its values, you have to question the values of a group who shares its values with a man like Anders Breivik.
What the EDL seek is a homogenous society with a single culture. The EDL believes that Islam is incompatible and is a threat to “English cultural values”, something they repeat a lot in both the FAQ thread and the Mission Statement, and therefore Islam must be banned and Muslims forced to abandon their religion or leave the UK. Lennon went further and stated that Muslims are a threat to the ‘white race’. References to the threat to English culture from foreign influences are legion and there are multiple mentions of wanting a culturally homogenous society, a typical example of fascism.
Other fascist-like behaviour within the EDL as a whole is the intimidation of unsympathetic media outlets, attacks on the meetings of political opponents, the desecration of places of worship for ideological reasons, the glorification of militarism and the obsession with the nation’s past military victories, violence as a political tool, the all-powerful leader with a personality cult, the referring to political opponents as ‘communists’ and their hatred of the Left, saying that anyone who disagrees with them is a ‘traitor’ to the nation (with fascism Party and State are one), the massive use of nationalistic imagery and holding ultra-nationalist beliefs, as well as rhetoric reminiscent of the Nazis (Jews substituted for Muslims).
Examples of fascist-sounding slogans include: “Patriotism isn’t racism, betraying your race is treason”, “One Country, One People, One Cause” and “One Nation, One Enemy, One Firm”.
The EDL releasing statements and mission statements saying they aren’t fascist makes no difference when their stated core beliefs are and so are their actions. Declaring they aren’t racist in their Mission Statement when their leader says that Muslim birth rates are a threat to continuing existence of the ‘white race’, is as meaningful as me releasing a statement to the effect of me being a purple carrot from the planet Mars called Eric. On 13th February 1945 Hitler declared “I promise you I am quite free of all racial hatred”, in his Political Testament. Releasing an official statement does not make lies turn into the truth.
Combined with the historical precedents and expert opinion, all this leaves no possibility of any other conclusion other than the EDL is fascist and therefore Far Right.
Well, the Nazi brigade can sure dish it out, but as usual, just cannot take it.
It has been widely confirmed that Anders Behring Breivik, in his hate manifesto, cited and referenced radical bigots such as Pam Geller, Geert Wilders, and many contacts in the far right UK fringe group,…
"Lower-level violence and intimidation continues unabated: last week on the day of the Norwegian massacre, in an entirely routine incident, a mosque in Luton was vandalised and spray-painted with a swastika and EDL slogan. The rise of Islamophobia in Europe and the US is the manipulated product of a toxic blend of economic insecurity, unprotected mass migration and the consequences of a decade of western-sponsored war in the Muslim world: from Afghanistan to Iraq, Pakistan to Libya.
It has become the new acceptable form of racism – far outstripping in opinion polls the level of hatred for any other religious or racial group, and embraced by those who delude themselves that anti-Muslim bigotry has nothing to do with ethnicity – and even represents some sort of defence of liberal values.”
We’ve been watching Stephen Lennon do his press rounds recently, he’s actually charging them now. Seriously…. Fifty quid a shot. Wowzers what a blagger. Who makes financial gain from the mass murder of children? Initial interviews seemed to go pretty well for him, I guess the pressure is off when you have no intention of answering any questions truthfully. It’s more an exercise in coming across as genuine which he fails at, but there you go. What has turned from a defensive necessity to negotiate the media to protect his organisation’s reputation to a financial and propaganda bonanza, probably means we should stop indulging the two bit football hooligan, coke head, cowboy builder of the world of activism. Perhaps give him enough airtime to hang himself? What follows is a transcript of an interview with Stephen Lennon on BBC 3 counties radio and our challenges as to the honesty of his responses. Remember just one BULLSHIT discredits the man as having any integrity:
interviewer will be I
“Tommy” will be T
I- David Cameron says that the government here is taking extremely seriously that AB may have links to far right groups in this country. The organisation who’s name has been most mentioned is the EDL, they say they had no official contact with them, Stephen Lennon is from Luton, he is also known as Tommy Robinson and he’s the leader of the EDL and joins us in the studio this morning, Stephen, thanks for coming in. and speaking to us this morning. Can I just start by asking have you ever met AB?
T- I haven’t. Can I just start by saying our deepest sympathies and prayers go out to all the victims of this horrific incident
I -did you know of AB before Friday?
T- I didn’t, no
I- but fellow supporters did of the EDL didn’t they according to Ab’s facebook 700, 600 EDL supporters
T-600 out of 100,000 followers on the internet so it doesn’t mean any of them have met em. They’re cyber friends on fb, I had 7,000 friends on fb. I only knew about 100 or so of them
I but 600 EDL supporters are his friends on facebook
T yeah they were
I so the EDL has got links hasn’t it to AB
T- when you say has got links I think its only speculation and opinions, opinions are like elbows, everyone’s got 2 , we need the facts, the facts are cos there has been this smear campaign and word association
I the facts are that 600 members of the EDL are his friends on facebook
Anders Behring Breivik’s last known posting about the EDL.
T the facts are on page 1438 of his document, he states that EDL are in fact anti racist, anti fascist and anti Nazi they have many members and leaders with no European backgrounds, Africans and Asians, the EDL and his group principals can never be reconciled as we are miles apart ideal idea log logi logigically the EDL harshly condemns any movement that uses terror as a tool such as mine, this is why myself view the EDL as naïve fools the edl is a democratic movement and they still believe that a democratic system can solve it’s problems. Does that sound like we had a good relationship in any sort of way?
I- previously, prior to that, brevik had, well he’s changed his mind obviously about your…
T- He’s changed his mind, and this is the most this is the latest thing, he’s changed his mind once he’s seen what we’re about we cond
I- but he has supported your organisation in the past hasn’t he
T- well we have the s.., we share an ide.. a part of an ideology that we believe that islam is a serious threat to Europe, we believe that Islam or extremists Mr Lennon?
I lets’ not talk about your ideology because we have heard about it many a time here on breakfast, what I want to talk to you about this morning is newsnight, last night on the BBC. You made an extraordinary claim that we are heading for attacks here that Norway has suffered on Friday in fact we can see them here, you said in five to ten years time.
T (at same time as I) to be honest I’ve ma… I’ve made that claim for years
I you said, five to ten years time
T- I’ve made that claim prior to this
I you’re planning for this then are you?
T- I’m not planning for it at all no, I condemn all acts of violence and extremism, what I am saying is if we don’t plan against this it will happen and god forbid we need that on our soil,
I- what leads you to believe it’s going to happen in the first place?
T- Because, when you live at a street level, like myself, you understand the anger and frustration that there is in our communities. There’s a lot of anger, there’s a lot of frustration. People are deeply concerned with Islam and by brushing it under the carpet, not just brushing it under the carpet, anyone opening their mouth being deemed a racist, we see our local politicians calling us well, there’s no evidence till it does happen. outsiders, there’s an alienation period going on with the working class community of this country and if they’re not careful they are going to create monsters, and in a democracy, when you are aggrieved by s…
I- Where’s your evidence?
T- where’s my evidence?
I- that this is going to happen in five to ten years time
T- well look what’s just happened in Norway, I said this before Norway
I- It doesn’t mean it’s going to happen here, where’s your evidence that it’s going to happen
I then why are you saying things like this
T- I’m predicting its, I’m predicting
I- so this is your gut feeling
T- there’s an under current of anger
I do you not think that by saying things like this, this is what will stir it up in the first place?
T- no, I believe that by ignoring things like this, and not talking about things like this, we will allow it to happen and God forbid we want to prevent anything like that happening on British soil and to prevent it they need to start accepting that there is an elephant in the room ,its called Islam, let’s talk about it, lets not brush it under the carpet and pretend that everything is hunky dory and that Islam is not a religion..Islam is a religion of peace
I this is what you’re really good at isn’t it, the EDL, you preach intolerance yet you don’t want to take responsibility for the effect of the rhetoric on other people. That’s the definition of power without responsibility what you do is you light the touch power„, touch paper. You give people your opinions. You put them out there, these extreme far right views, and people run away with them.. they become too dangerous (Tommy speaks at same time as last part)
T- which extreme far right views is that, and when you talk about intolerance, Islam is an intolerant religion towards all other faiths so
I what you do, is you preach your views to people and then when it becomes a little bit out of control, or a lot out of control as in this case, you wash your hands completely of all responsibility
T, well no, you’re completely wrong actually if you look at what we’ve done from day one, we have gone against extremism, we’ve promoted integration, we’ve promoted non non non, european members, non English members because that’s what makes up England. When I see England, I see black, I see white, I see brown , that is why that is what makes up the EDL movement
I are your supporters dangerous?
T- are our supporters dangerous? No, not any supporters I know are dangerous. It’s the same, its the same. When 7/7 happened
I Are you dangerous?
T when 7?7 happened, listen
I Stephen, listen, are you dangerous?
T- no I’m not dangerous at all.
I listen, we’re reporting in the news this morning that you’ve just been convicted of football hooliganism this week, and involved in a street brawl
T- I have been convicted of raising my arms in the air, and if you listen, if you read the Guardian website they actually say that the police officer was caught out lying on oath, in the last 12 months I have had my rights to go to football taken away, I have had my right to protest taken away
Tyeah I’m appealing that, I have had my right to protest taken away and I have had all my money and finances taken away
I are your members dangerous, i’m going to show you a picture now, taken from the internet which is your EDL supporters
T- says who?
I- wearing EDL tops, holding guns up
T- and does anybody know who they are? Could be anyone
I- this is the thing, your preaching your views then you do step away from any real responsibility
T they could be anybody, if you look at what we’ve preached, we’ve preached non extremism, non violence, from day 1, that’s all we’ve ever done, we’ve condemned it we, in a democracy when you are angry you a go out on the street and you’re supposed to protest, that’s what you’re supposed to do, it’s your democratic right. That takes away, if that democratic right is taken away, when we come to Luton, which we have serious issues in Luton which we wanted to highlight, we came here, we peacefully protested in our thousands, yet we had politicians telling us we’re scum, they don’t want us, these are dangerous times when there treading on these times and try to take people’s rights away from them, I have had my democratic right to protest taken away from me, as have many of our members
I- as the EDL do you no longer know who you are?
T- yeah we know who we are, yeah
I you are a far right winged
T- ok so what far right about the EDL? No, can you answer
I your so called
Tno, can you answer, you just called me far right answer the question
I the so called link between breivik and EDL is something that you are now severely (unintelligible) about.
I- which link? The link where he calls us naïve fools? That link
I but he was one of your supporters
T- clearly not, naïve fools, he says we are ideologically miles apart, now can you explain to me what is far right, you’ve just called us far right on the radio, explain to me what is far right about the EDL You’re not .. explain to me what’s far right
I- you preach , what you preach in your views Is not…
T -against homophobia , against anti Semitism, tell me which part is far right, just explain to me which part is far right
I- what you preach in your views
T- which part, you’re not going be able to answer because we are not a far right organisation
I- I’m going to
T- well go on then
I what you preach in your views is far right
T- like what
I because what you go around preaching
T- like what, like what?
T- well, no, you haven’t got an answer cos we’re not far right. That’s it, you can keep labelling us far right on the radio and the media, if you come out and tell the truth we’re not even far right. There’s nothing far right about standing up for women’s rights, there is nothing far right about standing up for our culture
I what your group does is it preaches against a recognised global religion
T- no its not a glo.. is it a religion when you get the death penalty for leaving it? See in my mind that’s an ideology that that’s a cult and the Italian government has come out and said, this is not a religion this is an ideology and across Europe you will see all politicians coming out and explaining it, it’s not, its an ideology that is masquerading as a religion, I am glad you have just confirmed that there is nothing far right about our organisation.
I- do you worry that a minority of your supporters might go too far?
T- no the biggest worry to me and this country is a minority within the Islamic faith, that’s the biggest worry, lets not pretend that the biggest worry is any far right organisation the EDL have never committed any acts of violence, we have never blown anything up,
Over the past few of days alleged EDL member Daryl Hobson’s name has been mentioned in various media outlets in connection to claims that the Norwegian terrorist, Anders Behring Breivik, met members of the English Defence League and visited the UK in 2010 to take part in EDL demonstrations.
Viewers of last night’s BBC flagship programme “Newsnight” will have seen EDL leader Stephen Lennon (aka Tommy Robinson) tell the interviewer Jeremy Paxman, that he (Lennon), did not know who Daryl Hobson was and that Hobson was merely a “random” member of the EDL’s Facebook group.
Lennon made a number of other claims that the BBC decided not to challenge.
Well, pictured above is a photograph of Lennon with the Hobson himself. Yes, the “random” and allegedly unknown to Lennon, Daryl Hobson.
Lennon is reported to be charging sections of the media £50 for an interview. Let’s hope it is on a sale or return agreement. Based on this evidence, he is selling faulty merchandise.
if this had been carried out by a Muslim attacker, or any person with brown skin, we would currently be witnessing a media frenzy of racist and xenophobic propaganda. Because Breivik is a white, Christian, European man, only the individual, and not those elements of his identity, is blamed.
"The EDL had stated on its website that it had no links to Breivik. Stephen Lennon, the leader of the group, was unavailable for comment on the claims, but the EDL said journalists could attend a press conference with him on Tuesday if they paid a £50 fee."
Yes Tommy, they do while people like you are afforded the right to peddle your ignorant filth. Tommy is great at his veiled ‘im not saying its right but…..’ when asked his views on the use of violence to further his message. Back in our real world there is nothing ‘predictable’ about the slaughter of young adults Tommy you fucking freak.
In January 2010, the News of the World published an expose on Birmingham based (at the time) Anthony Phipps, a BNP member, now Regional Organiser of the Chelmsley Wood Division of the English Defence League.
A soldier in Prince Charles’ regiment, he was exposed as a Nazi fan and BNP supporter and his affiliation to the EDL came shortly afterwards.
The paper showed pictures Anthony Phipps uploaded onto his Facebook account, proudly showing off his Nazi tattoo and pictures of swastikas. Another snap added to the page was a red-on-black Nazi Party crest complete with a swastika at the bottom.
In one of them, he and some friends were seen making Sieg Heil gestures.
Another picture shows a tattoo featuring a Nazi Party-style eagle standing on top of a St George Cross. Phipps makes clear his racist beliefs by stating his political views are “BNP”.
After the article was published, the press began reporting that Anthony Phipps had gone AWOL and was being hunted by Military Police – who following the article, had raided an address in the West Midlands.
An MoD spokesman at the time, when asked, said “The Army does not tolerate racist behaviour and those who are found to fall short of the Army’s high standards will be dealt with appropriately.”
A senior military source said: “Being a multi-cultural unit, we are horrified and appalled. There is a lot of anger about the shame he has brought upon us all…He’s not fit to wear the uniform”
He added: “Phipps was a bit of a loner. He could not be trusted and would always take the easy option.”
Hall Green Labour MP Steve McCabe said: “Membership of the BNP is inconsistent with the values of the British Armed Forces.
“Army personnel are supposed to uphold the values of the Crown and the BNP’s views conflict with those.”
The frontline infantry soldier served in 3 Mercian Regiment (Staffs), whose Colonel in Chief is Prince Charles and lists his political beliefs as: “BNP. i.e. Pride, Power and Patriotism. No surrender, EVER.”
He even set up his own Facebook group in early 2009 asking pals if they would vote for him if he ran for the racist party.
In February 2010, the Birmingham Mail reported that Anthony Phipps, was thought to have been absent without leave after claiming he felt “too threatened” to return to his barracks.
He told the Mail he planned to hand himself over to the authorities, but was still on the run, with his family claiming he has had a breakdown. The Ministry of Defence said he was likely to be thrown out of the Army when he was captured.
His being on the run, didn’t include a low profile and he was caught on camera celebrating Aston Villa’s Carling Cup semi-final win over Blackburn Rovers on the Villa Park pitch and his picture slapped on the front page.
He then changed his mind about giving himself up
Despite criticism of his political views (and his tattoos and seig heils and Facebook postings…), Phipps insisted: “I’m not a racist or a Nazi.”
Finally in April 2010, he was captured by Police and he was found just miles from where he grew up.
All was quiet as the MOD continued their investigations into ‘Phippsy’ and he eventually was made to leave.
Phippsy got bored within the space of a month and together with Daniel Dodd, decided to set up a ‘political party’ “Phipps and Dodd for UK”
“Our main priority is to start putting the Pride, Patriotism and Safety back into all of our communities.
Once we have seats in the government we will withdraw from the European Union (EU) and win back our right for democratic self-governance.
We will 100% pull our Heroes out of Iraq and Afganistan! This is not our war!
We want to close and lock the door to bogus asylum seekers who pass through other countries to get to Soft Touch Britain, We will deport those already here!
We will put a halt on the creeping Islamification of Britain which is supported by all other parties bar BNP. NO MORE MOSQUES, SHARIA LAW, or ISLAMIC PROPAGANDA in the classrooms and on our streets. Our nation, Our rules! Stick to them or we will personally book you a flight home!
We’ll keep out foreign labour which takes away jobs and undercuts the wages of British workers! All construction contracts in the UK must go to British firms, Using British labour at fair rates of pay.
Deportation of Foreign criminals is a must - Our nation has enough homegrown vermin, without acting as the worlds dustbin aswell !
Chemical castration for rapists and paedophiles. The rights for our future generations are far more important than the ‘rights’ of criminal perverts! We also want restoration of the death penalty for premeditated murder if the conviction has been supported by both DNA and other evidence.
We could go on all day and tell you our aims but if you wish to know more then contact us or ask us on our blog page.
If you choose not to join our revolution then no worries, you are free to make your own decisions. We beg you to atleast use the Pride and Courage we Brits were gifted, Say no to racism, Say yes to Celebrating our Proud Nation, you have freedom of speech so use it and have your say, Mainly….. Fly your ENGLISH, SCOTTISH, WELSH and IRISH flags in the faces of our enemies, WITH PRIDE!
T-Shirts, Flags and wristbands are soon to be available, all proceeds go to Help For Heroes. Grab them while you can, ready for our marches through your cities working hand in hand with the English Defence League!
We stress that we are NOT a racist party, Racism is a 100% no go, it is not welcome and will not be tolerated!
Click on Contact Details for info on how to become a member of Phipps & Dodd for UK.
Phipps and Dodd ca’nt fight the modern Battle For Britain on our own, but by the grace of god, We will die trying!
The Lion Has Awoken !
1 BRITAIN, FOREVOR OUR BRITAIN
Mr A Phipps and Mr D Dodd
Phipps & Dodd For UK”
Such a shame he couldn’t practice what he preached
In the meantime, back at the ranch, in February 2011, The Daily Star published a series of photographs stating that they could blow apart the English Defence League’s claim to non-violence as the hooded, gun-toting men pose in front of flags bearing the name and No Surrender slogan of the outlawed Ulster Volunteer Force. These photographs came from a set published by the EDL’s Birmingham Division.
No names were mentioned, but the EDL members howled “they’re photoshopped, it’s a set up, they’re fake pics” what have these got to do with the EDL” “the left wing media are trying to bias people against us” The usual EDL rants when confronted with anything which makes them look bad (have they done anything that makes them look good I wonder?)
Luckily, we at Expose and other helpful activists can elaborate – and present you the viewing public with a few more pics in detail.
You’re not in the army anymore and you’re not at war Phippsy
familiar looking memorabilia, no?
pledge of allegiance to what exactly? I rather like the cut off “NO TO RAC[ISM] text on the EDL flag when compared to Phippsy’s “vermin muzrat paki cunts” screenshot.
familiar face on the bottom right? Oh yes he was the one doing the nazi salute! Goes by the name Hatchet, real name… Phil
John Wright English and Anthony Phipps – what? no masks to hide your identity this time boys?
because we all have stolen equipment from the MOD in our houses. It’s perfectly normal.
EDL members regarding Breivik “it means nothing that he had over 100 EDL friends and went to EDL rallies and was inspired by the EDL - he’s nothing to do with us” I can happily say none of my friends have gone on a killing spree. They don’t have that luxury any more and to make it worse, they not only did nothing to stop it, they actively encouraged the hate, igorance and violence. Maybe they need to look over their shoulders at their next ‘protest’ and wonder which one of them is next to flip?
With thanks to the Birmingham Mail, the ex-News of the World, The Daily Star, Exposing and…
How much longer can we allow a group with long term affiliations to the extreme right to operate in this country? ‘human rights organisations’ dont collaborate with convicted zionist bombers or mass murders.
English Defence League in denial. In more ways than one.
Proscribe the EDL
Today, after finally accepting their ignorant bigoted insistence the terrorism committed in Norway on Friday by Islamic extremists couldn’t have been further from the truth, The EDL have hit back at the national press as being irresponsible and libelous. Well they should know all about that.
The EDL official fanpage was wall to wall assumption on Friday night.
Their recent statement on their official web site is incredible. After two years of systematically attacking one of the worlds largest faiths and all mainstream political groups, they still fail to accept their views were not only in line with Anders Behring Breivik but their online communities have been a breeding ground for potentially similar unhinged individuals. Their statement claims “We have a long and successful history of ridding this peaceful and patriotic organisation of anyone who doesn’t agree with our mission statement, or shows extremist beliefs. This includes successful stewarding of our demos, ensuring that any racists are removed from the areas, strict moderating on our forums and constant monitoring of our facebook pages and affiliated groups.”
Standard EDL supporters rhetoric… Muzzies and commies, hate em all. sound familiar?
I don’t know if it’s possible to be libelous about yourself but the EDL have given it a good shot. They have a short and what can only be described as dangerously lax history of dealing with supporters who don’t abide by their mission statement. Don’t take our word for it, check out this comprehensive and devastating archive:
Posts inciting racism and religious hatred have constituted the bulk of the online content the EDL produce. We documented the EDL Halifax division singing 'lets all kill a muslim' encouraged by their regional organiser, on the way to a demonstration. were they removed from the organisation? no they fucking well were not. The only people who are removed from the EDL are those who challenge Stephen Lennon’s leadership. Guramit Singh was exposed as threatening to Burn the ‘paki cunts’, was he removed from the organisation? noooooo he will be sorely missed as he takes time out to nurse his ill grandmother and avoid being excommunicated from his own faith.
This blog, our facebook groups, many friends and twitter pals have literally tens of thousands of screenshots of EDL ‘members’ threatening to attack Muslims, politicians and buildings so to be frank, we cant comprehend how the EDL came to the conclusion they had no role in being a familiar online environment for this individual to participate in and draw confirmation in his extreme views.
Taken from the EDL Official fan page. Chris Howard has been participating on the EDL wall unchallenged for weeks praising Ratko Mladic and regularly demanding civil war.
Today The English Defence League Jewish division on learning the student group discussed Palestine on their island working groups, decided that this ‘explained’ his actions and the victims were obviously scum. I would suggest calling lost politically active teenagers ‘scum’ is the opinion of a radical fool with the morals of a c**t. Or also known as the admin of the EDL Jewish Division, who famously praised the beheading of UN staff in Afghanistan because they were ‘probably Norwegian or Swedish’ and so Anti-Semitic (????)
Nothing can explain that mans actions.
This EDL division is one that up until very recently has been in open discussion with convicted bombers and it took Stephen Lennon six months to begrudgingly deal with it. We blogged the extremist nature of the EDL Jewish division extensively and worried about their influence. Even now the terrorist adoring Roberta Moore is still actively involved with their LGBT division so rather than ‘ridding’ the organisation of those who hold extremist beliefs the EDL tend to ignore them and then shuffle them around.
“there is no evidence that Brievik was ever one of those 100,000 supporters. Even so, anyone who expresses any extremist beliefs of any kind, be it white supremacist, christian fundamentalist or Islamic extremists, they all get banned from the site”. If you banned everyone from EDL sites who expressed extremist beliefs you would be left with the membership of Expose, the police and a shit load of journalists. Jeff Marsh would have to go for sure. As for evidence he was not ever one of those supporters, apart from his own admission he was and is known to have been connected to at least 150 active EDL members through facebook er no…. Who should I believe? The Express, Channel four, Radio four, the Guardian, Mail and Telegraph? or NHS paper shuffler and one time Neo Nazi text dater Helen Gower, who almost certainly wrote this official statement tat.
For those unfamiliar with the EDL and their abbreviations, the NWI is a splinter group who have only really splintered in the sense they hate Stephen Lennon, are openly racist yet still attend EDL events and demos and support their aims. It’s like EDL uncut.
Even If this guy cannot be directly connected to EDL leadership (yet) is it not enough to know that his core hate filled views mirror the EDL’ s almost perfectly? So what would an obsessively anti Islamic, anti Muslim and anti Liberal Brievik find so attractive about the EDL? So attractive in fact he would offer to set up a Norwegian division (supposedly unaware there already was one going down like a ton of shit in a civilised tolerant stable Norway). A couple of weeks ago I started a personal project to aid a campaign to prevent the EDL from persecuting the residents of Tower Hamlets in September. Working on the principle that the EDL official fan page would be truly representative of how supporters felt, I decided to collect posts which contradicted their original assertion that the EDL was never set up to discriminate against all Muslims. I planned to make it a seven/eight week project but it was halted by the hacking and removal of the official fan page by a pro Palestinian group and events in Norway. It needs to be seen. Each post is a genuine comment. Over a period of no more than two weeks. You tell me after wading through this filth that the English Defence League took the moderation of their online content seriously or responsibly.
1. A genie granted me 3 wishes me: ‘Death to all Muslims, peace on Earth…’ Genie: ‘Okay, and what about your third wish?’ Me: ‘What the fuck are you on about, I’ve still got two wishes left.’ Take this a tip….AS the local muSSlim scum worship money more than their God , best thing to do is contaminate their means of survival….here’s what to do =====place a bit of cash, say £10s and £20s between two rashers of bacon overnigh…t and spend them in muSSlim shops….this will contaminate the Till, the shop, the street, the town, all in a few days. Do this as part of the daily routine shop. At least one shop has closed down near to me as they ’ heard’ this was being done on a regular basis. The poor twat must’ve spent 100s on soap cleaning his hands and the cash register…No surrender to the filth of Islam.
I have grown up watching more and more of these Muzzie cunts infiltrate this country like a fucking plague. Send em crawling back to the deserts. Bash up all these dirt muslims its the nly way government dont listen!!! And what does it matter if we have followers of 14/88 in the EDL? If a dogs born in a stable dont make it a horse. I have a seven month old daughter and i am scared that one day she will bring a muzzie home, when that day comes I will be had for murder. The english government is soft they let those creatures build them places in r christian country. just bury a pig on the site & they will F***k off to somewhere else!!!!Bacon grenades. petrol cans at the ready! these are dirty fuckin muslims were talking about you aint gonna get a 1 on 1 with em they fear us true english people lol. this just shows how none educated the dirty little sand rats are @Aashit! You and your paedophile, pervert, pretend prophet and your imaginary sadistic bloodthirsty ex pagan moon god have had their own way for too long in the UK. You will be evicted shortly! Mark my words! eat pig aashif you inbred tw4t. Why wont sharks eat muslims;;;;Because they think its whale shit. I can’t believe that they think they can take somebodys land because of this made up dung! …Then grows a following of Islamic morons mass murdering in the name of Allah (Allah, Allah, who the fuck is Allah!) for centuries, you really couldn’t make this idiotic shit up! It has no place in our society, muslims should leave their ‘faith’ (choke), or fuck off back to the Middle East, Muslims, you have no place in our society as we don’t have a mental institute big enough to fit you all into. andrew, the koran is nothing more than toilet paper for little oinkers ! aka pig fat piggies ! Never trust anybody that worships a feckin bingo chain!!. So Islam can be band now and all Muslims can fuck off..The Koran was all lies and it’s our god and Muslims can’t share it FACT so your not going heaven „ The truth was there.. We now need to send our troops to meeca now a demolish it all and take it back. ill make you shit your pants and it eat it you sad pig munching English wannabe, we kicked your arses in the cusades, we will kick your sad pathetic… retarded arses again, your gimps and fucking wimps, we will bury you in pig shit ! NO SURRENDER EVER….unlike the muslims pricks in the crusades, who surrendered quicker than a ten dollar crack whore drops her knickers ! If you kneel to sniff man-ass 5 times a day - you might be a muslim ……ILL BE THERE WITH A FUCKING PIGS HEAD TO CHUCK IN UR MOSQUE. Oi u muslim cunts fuck off home and blow ur own people up u dirty cunts. I hope all u Muslim cunts die tomoz, and I hope ur dad raped ur mum n that’s how u were concived EDL forever. we are an island race a nation of warriors and we will never surrender or be beaten especially not by you dirty muslim cunts. i’m goin show the smelly rats that this is england NS. hassan do us all a favour and fuck off out of our country and take all your benefit crimanal drug dealing muslim cunts with you. ashraf i hope ur there il personaly break my hands as i cave your skull in you are a rude cunt but my fist shall end you , nonce case. Rats…… sometimes you must burn out the Nest. allah is a peado ,you know it i know it. [EDL] The worlds largest voluntarily pest control organisation. ;) And burn a fucking Mosque, preferably with all the breeding fuckers in it. see snake has poison on its tongue ,scorpion in its tail but these muslim people have poison in wholoe body. All mosques should be converted to pig farms, a little slaughterhouse at the back, and then sell bacon butties through the front window! Great idea? like this if u support the edl and fuck thoes pakies. ya quoting hitler and nazism well i in a sick kind of way wish he had won the war cos then there would defo be no mosques in uk now and no ragheads…….. just wondering if i burnt a mosque would i be charged???? think about it you could argue you were doing it for queen and country i mean throughout history we have fire bombed such building albeit on other soils but has the time come to try it here :-) to all you muslim arse lick twats on this link your mongrel scum of the earth your spreading like the plague your vile i hate your culture i hate your religion i hate your food i hate your cloths i hate the way you muzzys have been given ev…ery thing on a plate why have i had to struggle for sake of you fuckin vile people..why have you people got the right to given housing and free money from my country what have you done to deserve it FUCK ALL im not racist but i do know one thing i hate every single one of you free loading scum…your the cancer of the planet. We fostered a young Muslim boy at the weekend….all four tins hit him in the face. the churches will be raised and the mosques will be burnt down bless the english god! Islam is not for civilised people. Fuck um all off back close all kebab shops and there dirty fuckin takeaways. Islam and its followers can go fuck themselves. Time those stinking brown mutts were put in there places! NFSE. u burn a poppy and we will burn a mosqe. It’s about time they packed up their smelly burkas and fucked off home. Islam is a Fucking STAIN on Humanity. It’s Backwards, it has ZERO style, it has ZERO Science, it has ZERO Tolerance and ZERO fucking Inventiveness. Islam is what is holding back the whole of Mankind. Bring on tower hamlets. NS! aint it funny wen u shoot islams with a bb gun :) semtex strapped to the body,n boom fkin scum bags NS. And definitely not for me the nigmus smelling twats. Hang’em high, hang em low, hang them all above the snow, drop them facedown in the sand …..”I care not how, so long as they HANG! ;)” I find the relationship between me and muslims a “Love Hate Thing” Like - I LOVE HATING THEM. Before long the Muslims will be demanding that we all use Camels as transport Fuck the Koran. shoot the basterds simples ! fuck the muslims dirty deaseesed riddon cunts E.d.l no surrender english n proud. actually why is that they smell so bad?is it in the Koran to smell bad? The reason muslims don’t want to go home is because they know what a shit hole it is… They haven’t done anything to make the world a better place. Burn burn burn the fucking dirty Koran! This is England after all! Bout time them dirty cunts worked it out! ENGLAND. fuk islam. may they burn in hell. scruffy cowards block all channels ov entry and cull wots left poisoning this GREAT country ov ours. Muslims debate with swords to the neck. does any one know where muslims pray in the street if so we could all meet up for the larest game of leap frog and get in to the Guinness book of World Records. Isslam is a death cult,the anti christ,mohammed is the dark prophet n allah is Satan,anyone who is unfortunate to be born to isslam should get out of it now. The Burka… Because even Allah thinks your fucking ugly! You seeem to be blissfully unaware of the EXTREME Anti-West views of MOST so-called “British” Muslims. but your religion is full of hate and if you could, you would kill all non believers! Terrorism all over if you ask me! Your religion supports terrorism then! Your all deluded & brainwashed! Wake the fuck up! muslim hate clerics n this bollocks bwt musilim police mre like twats tht wnt to b like batman haha n these mosques r fuckin mad there every fucking where nfs. They are worse than animals and should be put into mental asylums, preferably in the middle of the desert! fuck off muslims you dirty sweatie arabs Mosques should all be demolished They should convert to Christianity, learn English and lose them fucking bhurkas or just fuck off. ill fucking bomb it myself if its approved!!! Simple bury pig blood or a pig on the grounds where they wna build it. They HAVE to change it then. well building the biggest mosque outside pakistan on my door step offends me!!!! fire bombs at the ready !!!! burn it down. I’m sick of living in fear of muslims under the constant threat of terrorism, so today I decided to give them a taste of their own medicine. These fucka’s takin the piss now mosques evrywere. I threw a bar of soap into my local mosque! No offense but they smell like shit.And why do we try to appease these fools?What makes them any different from anyone else? Followers of Islam are sub human. NS. Fucking Natzi Muslim bastards. muslims contribute nothing to society. other than extreme views. fuck off muslims. shut the fuck up ya in bred allah cock sucking prick and go away. kick the fuckers out to have muslim shit in there own countrries. I only want to see England as it is, a true place of goodneness. Unfortunatly, or fortuntly that cant happen with muslim shit….muslim is crap. YOU DIRTY PIECE A SKIN YOU ARE SCUM IN MY EYS, TAKE YA MOSQUES APART WE WILL, SEND YOU BASTARDS BACK WE WILL, EDL WILL RULE THIS COUNTRY AND SEND YOU PRICKS BACK WERE YOU BELONG! DONT COME ON HERE RUNNING YA MOUTH YA LITTLE ALLA…H COCK SUCKING MOTHER FUCKER, GET BACK IN YA PLAY PEN BEFORE I SLAP YA WITH A PIG AND GO FUCK YA MRS WITH A KEBAB SCEWER! NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE EDL ALONE YA SMARMY GOB SHITE. if you want to lose your life and your home your going the right way about it. EDL NEVER SURENDER, KEEP THE WORK UP. GUYS WE WILL TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND SLOWLY!Islam is a dilutition of truth, in fact a total anilastion of truth, dont let satan fuck you.WE DO NOT CARE JUST TAKE YA WIFE AND TWENTY INBRED KIDS AND FUCK OFF N GIMME MY COUNTR…Y BACK!Feeling really low earlier, so to cheer myself up I dipped my muslim mate in bleach. That lightened Mahmoud a bit. We need to do more than just discuss getting muslims out of our country because it just doesn’t seem to be getting us anywere! We need a more hands on approach. The muslims as a race are evil bastards and will do what they can to get things done. There invading us as we speak. there only 2 types ov peoplewho like muslims….. muslims and smack heads!!! When is it burn the qur’an day ? washa de pits n body we a jet wash hump a goat of your choice, then board a plane to your barbaric infested land of home…. ohhh and explain to your 9 year old wife where youve been for the last year…. you smelly goat humpin slipper wearing ass hair ont chin guttter living barbaric scum!!!!!!!!! the muslim on the bus goes boom boom boom, I have met a few and there all the same. They all have blank minds! Like some sort of untamed animal.Muhamed was a paedo and Allah is a cunt ns. I HATE ISLAM. DIRTY INBRED SON OV A CAMELS CUNT. whats the difference between E.T and muslims? …. E. got the point and went home :-) how can u tell the difference between a female and a male muslim… his and her towels what do u call a muslim that owns six goats? … a pimp the awkward moment when 8 muslims go to the airport and the officers are trying to figure out if ninja’s are allowed on the plane the awkward moment when u think a muslim is fit untill they take of their veil no wounder they cover the faces the ugly bastards… the awkward moment when you ask a muslim to flash n they show u there sandal… Im just going to do what no Muslim has ever done before….(Drum roll Please)……..Yes Im going to have a bath…Is actually quite surprised at how racist I am. It’s not all black people its the soap dodging sand kicking camel shagging rag heads that stink of curry and drives taxi from job to job very quickly - just thought I’d mention it.Islam is an evil barbaric rascist fascist nazi paedo worshiping cult. wot islam means to me is….. I STAND ….LOYAL….AGAINST…MUSLIMS…AND ALL THEY BELIEVE IN. islam is scum. Koranderthal pedos and murderers. allah has aids and is a full on ped , EDL Phuck Allah and that pervert Mohammed…. WE GET VIOLENT IF WE NEED TO AND WE WILL RUN YOU MUSLIM ISLAMIC SCUM OUT you muslims are… just a sick bunch of fucks who root little children and call this there way as well as taking rights off women and have a end game of total global domination of your ways. Just like a parasite in my SHIT! We have names for you here ( Rock spiders ) who get beaten to death by REAL men! I am a father of 2 girls and you try your ways on them,I WILL CUT YOUR THROAT!! Go back to your hole you climbed out of as you will never see a bowing HUMAN to your god forsaken pedophile allah! all I can say is the only good muslim is the one dead in a pigs bladder. muslims are stil stuck in the stone age speakin of stones lol they aint even reached the ape stage yet,evil pack of bastards! If we cant take it back then build a wall around it keep the fuckers contained. tower hamlets has been like it for along time. Muslim scum, fuck the ragheads time to fight back and regain our country. I’ll tie u up n feed u bacon ya cunt!!! Burn baby burn mosque inferno . AND I AINT RACIST ITS JUST MUSLIMS ARE DISRESPECTING FUCKIN US U ARE RACIST AGAINT US WHITCH IS WHY EDL WILL SAY BURN A FUCKIN MOSQUE FANCY A PORK CHOP !!!!!! Mosques look Shit in a normal high street.knock them down and build deportation centres instead, they are dirty smelly scum inbreeds that the world can do with out. GOD BLESS THE EDL. we see u soon we should just get every member and then search the whole country door to door setting all muslims houses and mosques on fite i would of set them on fire fuck their mosques burn the muslims. u burn a poppy and we’ll burn a mosque ! Horrible muslim bastards enough said, on the dem, always carry a catapult and shoot pork meatballs at the infidels. cover the mosque in pig blood simples. stupid fucking muslim cunts. I hate them all, YOUR THE PARASITES WE;RE TALKING ABOUT. FCUK OFF AND SEE MOHAMMED…. Kill all muslims, most of the woman as ugly thats why there husbands put muzzels on them. Lol. what if we all chip in, hire boats for all our muslim or islam people a free trip to go and worship whoever they do . wait until theyre half way across and SINK IT. they are all parasites in our community. Muslims are pond life, anyone who disagrees are just as bad. muhammed sucks cock. the muslims are like fleas on a dead fox, dirty bastards. Muslims smell like curry just sayin. moo-ham-ed is a peado, moo-ham-ed is a peado. la la la. how about bacon grease diluted with metho from a water pistol mmm.. I live near a mosque it stinks and defo shud b set on fire burn the mother fuckers down wen there all innit I say xx Sorry i missed out curry munching benefit taking paedofile worshiping freak show cunts FUCK ISLAM AND ALL ITS cave dwellin nuckle draggin cunts ———oh i might just shoot my gun in the air ——hahahaha ——i hope the bullit comes down on your head —-arsewipe!!!!!! MUSLIMS CANT PLAY FOOTBALL!!! they build a shop evey time they get a corner. Muzzie filth. they should hammer it [pool for Muslim women swimming sessions] with acid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how about a march along finsbury park whilst they praying in the road outside the mosque lol………. sure their rags would burn well in the street. stabbings wtf is that what happens when ya fire bomb a mosque :-)
Posted on official EDL fan page. Just ONE supporter approving of this man’s actions is a problem for the EDL. We are currently collecting many, many more for Police and press as we speak.
When you read an EDL official statement, think on. They have enjoyed the controversy of threatening moderate forces in our society committed to cementing community cohesion and celebrating diversity for months. I cannot think of one positive initiative or project the English Defence League have backed or participated in to make our cities happier, healthier and safer. Not one. It has been the domain of the EDL to promote hate, hate, hate hate and if there was any room left, hate some more, and now that hate has manifested it’elf in to this incomprehensible tragedy it’s time for the EDL to reflect and accept the inevitability of it’s contribution.
It wont though because today’s statement has shown a breathtaking arrogance and dangerous denial of the position the EDL now finds itself. If Brievik’s victims had been Muslims, EDL supporters would have been celebrating unashamedly this week end, I promise you. Because I believe the EDL have no comprehension of the danger of their fundamentalist views and their inability to moderate their supporters I, and many others working tirelessly to expose links between this monster and the English Defence League, will continue to campaign for the EDL to be proscribed as soon as possible. Like Yesterday.
Congratulations by the way, to EDL Leader Stephen Lennon on his marriage this weekend. How, I wonder did he manage to swallow that Cake?
The perpetrator wanted to start anti-Muslim movement
"The suspected offender Anders Behring Breivik has been on the internet campaigning to start an anti-Muslim movement in Norway. … Breivik has over ten years, been active in the right-wing populist Progress Party has been the site document.no published a series of posts on the Progress Party and the European anti-Muslim movement.
On the same site, he writes that he supports the British anti-Muslim movement, English Defence League (EDL) and that he wants to start a Norwegian version of the movement:
EDL was founded in 2009 has become known for their violent demonstrations in British cities and suburbs. The movement draws partly on football hooligans. A Swedish counterpart was founded in early 2011. One of the driving force in the Swedish Defence League is the former Sweden Democrat Isaac Nygren.
Several of the suspected perpetrator of messages document.no is also about the conspiracy of the so-called “Islamization” of Europe and the West. In a post Breivik believes that there is an “Islamic demographic warfare” and that it would mean that national states are erased.
The perpetrator also says that he supports the anti-Muslim “ultra conservative” parties and that he sympathizes with “ethno-nationalist” parties and gives the example of the British National Party and National Front.”
EDL reaction to terror attack BEFORE they realised they inspired Anders Behring Breivik
By Janie Jones
The Oslo bombing and shooting were appalling and devastating, gut reactions and kneejerks were rife, many of the press assumed it was Islamic terrorism before facts became know. No one, however, seemed to react in such a vile way as the EDL. They didn’t just assume it was Muslims who carried this out they actively banned anyone who suggested otherwise. I, personally, was banned from the EDL news channel for suggesting that they should not report this as a muslim attack with no evidence, I was told that of course it was Muslims, this opinion was rife on EDL boards. The truth didn’t seem to matter. The EDL should apologise to the Muslim community and thank whatever God they believe in that their responses didn’t lead to any kind of revenge attacks last night. Yet again they proved they are nothing but racist extremists who will use anything to suit their own agendas.
So our wee band of 600 odd Exposers, goodies, characters and stalkers have been blown up on Facebook 29 times now. Seriously tho… ahm gonna have a moan. Facebook groups attracting tens of thousands who come together to share their religious hatred, inhumane racism and graphic content, happily skip along while we get bounced over and over and over again. I want my fucking money back.
Report bombing is a bitch. I’m toying with blaming the Neo Nazi’s, the NWO, Islamic muslamic jahadists and whatnot but really, what’s the point. After drive by shooting 15 we wised up and started moving our content around different forms of social media (Tadah That’s why I’m here battling the Harry Potter and porn feeds on TUMBLR) we also have great friends covering the world of YouTube and twitter. Unlike the English Defence League we never call for Mosques to be razed to the ground during Friday Prayers we just throw up a massive fuck off red arrow above networks of people that do. They have 96,368 fans we have 137. Go figure.
And so we turn thirty. A little less keen to take our top off at any old party, measured enough to know exactly what we want and jaded enough to be a spectacular pain in the ass at every opportunity. We have the demise of several EDL leaders and divisions under our belts and we aren’t finished yet.
If you don’t know what we do and why the English Defence League are so terrified of us they target us at every opportunity, pop by and check us out. We screw the EDL over every single day, we like a wee bit of cake and we are growing in to our Gin thing :o)
“DONT OUR SOLGERS FOLLOW ORDERS FROM THE GOVERMENT , ?? AND WOT ARE THEY DOING TRYING TO KLEEP LAW AND OREDER AND GETTING KILLED . THIS IS WOT THE POLICE HAVE TO DO FOLLOW OREDERS OR THEY LIKE ANY SOLDGERS WOULD BE PROTACUTED I BET MANY OF OUR LADS IN AFGAN WOULD LOVE TO GO MAD AND SHOT ANY 1 THEY LIKE .! BUT THEY CANT”—
This reminds of a fantastic joke -
I say, I say, I say - what is the difference betwixt a member of the EDL and a slice of toast?
We have a list of chosen enemies? We have no collective stance on Zionism, we challenge religious hatred perpetrated by the English Defence League towards British Muslims. The rest would sound interesting if it was relevant to what we do :o/
Has this guy confused us with someone else?
To ‘Darcy Jones’ et.al. @ Exposingon:
In your listing of your chosen enemies, you include “Zionists” with far-right wing extremists, etc.
I have encountered this conflation time and time again, in the antisemitic literature, including that from far-left wing extremist organisations, radical Islamist groups, and so on. I found myself asking: “Where are you (Exposingon) people coming from?” Are you simply muddled ideallists, having been taken in by the propaganda of the one or more of the abovementioned creeds, or are you yourselves, merely agents of theirs?
I will spare you your assumptions about me: I am a liberal, and I assert Israel’s right to exist (in peace with its neighbours including of course, a Palestinian state). I assert the necessity of a Jewish state. Much as Martin Luther King, Jr. stated: “If you are anti-Zionist, you are anti-Semitic!”. So like him, I assert that anti-Zionism is racism. Why would anyone deny the Jewish people a right to self-government? There is one political creed, above all, that does has this at its ideological core.
Let me put this another way: if there was only one Muslim state, would you interfere with those who supported its existence? Would you denounce them, and congratulate yourselves for doing so, having done your bit for a “freer, farer and safer world for all?!”
But for now, you are echoing the formula of none other than Reich propaganda minister Dr J Goebbels, who condemned Zionism and Zionists using exactly the same method and terms that you do here. If you take the time to study his work and methods, it will help you to see what you are doing.
Obviously, if you refuse to print this submission, you will have answered my question, to some extent!